• PugJesus@piefed.socialM
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    “Waow, they did a bunch of immoral secret experiments, their data must have proved something useful!”

    [gives them immunity]

    [checks their data]

    “People die when you cut off all their limbs and roll them down a hill.”

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      I thought a bunch of our hypothermia knowledge was due to Japan freezing people to death.

      I checked the wiki and it wasn’t hypothermia, it was frostbite. It does mention freezing people to death, but it doesn’t mention how useful/used any of the data was.

      I don’t know why I thought 731 was responsible for a lot of our understanding of hypothermia.

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        The data on freezing people actually was a point of contention in the Cold War period! Some scientists thought it should be used, because it was one of the few experiments that was performed with any sort of real rigor, while others said that the ethical concerns of even using data from already-performed unethical experiments of that caliber was beyond the pale.

        I don’t think the data was ever used, but it was discussed!

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          Ok…so I’m going to hell but … Frostbite being a discussion in the COLD WAR … Ok I’ll see myself out

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          Ok, that matches my memory, right up until the data being used.

          I thought they froze people to death, recorded a tonne, there was an argument about whether to use the data (whether using it just encourages other’s to do inhumane stuff to get into the history books, or whatever), and we ultimately did. But we didn’t.

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    The reason the Japanese were accepted was simply that they offered their data directly to the US rather than keeping it to themselves.

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    SLAYER - Unit 731

    Unit 731 Lyrics

    I am the last of the dying insane
    You would scream at the things I’ve done
    Knowing now that the dead still see
    My blood it runs like mercury
    Your last breath the sword comes down
    She dies first speaking death to me
    Philosophy, the vision, the view within
    Duty, science, abstract cruelty

    What are your final thoughts?
    Do you want to kill me or die in shame?
    From my point of view
    Justified action, the enemy burns

    The fun of massacre in the brain
    Bioweapons and I are the same
    Look at their face, hatred in their blood
    Pile up the dead, my humanity
    X-rays burn all that you can see
    Nobody knows what a body can stand
    Skulls on fire yet mercy is worse
    You seek only your pleasure in death

    What are your final thoughts?
    Do you want to kill me or die in shame?
    From my point of view
    Justified action, the enemy burns

    Bacterial target, eyes exploding
    Melting flesh through your mind
    Become your madness insanity wins
    Infant’s flesh on the walls
    Testing limits threshold of pain
    Ripping out teeth to observe
    I want blood

    Knowing now the dead still see
    My blood it runs like mercury
    Knowing now the dead still see
    My blood it runs like mercury
    Knowing now the dead still see
    My blood it runs like mercury
    Knowing now the dead still see
    My blood it runs like mercury

    Human brain experiment
    On prisoners open skull
    Vivisection, live dissection
    Repulsion to the core

    What are your final thoughts?
    Do you want to kill me or die in shame?
    From my point of view
    Justified action, the enemy burns
    Fuckin’ burn

    Pathogens seek horrible end
    Churning factories of death
    Crematoriums see your crime
    You will see me in hell