I would generally agree that their best episodes are well behind them, but they still produce some amazing moments. I recently rewatched the Pandemic Special, and it’s hands-down the best mainstream media I’ve seen in terms of encapsulating what living through the pandemic as a general member of the public actually felt like.
Watching this most recent season I got the impression that they were trying (and not just dialing it in), but were fighting the same problem that all satirists are right now: that reality has surpassed satire in its absurdity (although their plotlines about POTUS being equivalent to Saddam Hussein and Jesus himself falling into the manosphere certainly implied this predicament). If nothing else, it’s good to see a show that for a long time would have aligned itself with “free speech absolutists” fighting against them instead, not because they’ve abandoned free speech, but rather because of all the other baggage that side now carries.
These guys are already so super rich, I just don’t see the point of beating your beloved creation into the ground ruining it’s legacy but it’s not my business I guess.
Thei did have an entire season saying “#cancelsouthpark” every episode. They say in interviews that they don’t take it seriously but people keep paying so they will keep making whatever they want
Because they enjoy doing it. Look at the number of musical performers who keep going long after their cultural moment has passed. Hell I know people who keep playing and writing and painting even though no has ever paid attention.
I suppose, they just have been doing it so long that it didn’t seem like an art anymore, but it still is commercial as it may be. I would just be supremely bored but they are obviously not so good for them. I make music mostly for myself as well nowadays.
Bob Dylan won the Nobel Prize for literature. There are a lot of albums of his I’d consider unlistenable. I don’t think he cares what I think. He doesn’t care what the Nobel committee thinks either since he didn’t show up.
His lyrics have always been on point though, sure I think that’s generally true of most musicians, at least successful ones, to listen to your muse and not care. Or any artist for that matter. I suppose in my mind I am separating what I feel is a overrated cartoon from other art we’re talking about. That’s just my opinion. Bob Dylan also cared about things, the whole I’m so cool I don’t care about anything crap is so old, and lazy.
Humm, I suppose I can’t speak for them, I put myself through a hell when my loving creations went basically unnoticed, but that is because they were from my heart and not something I was trying to make popular or a copy of something else I guess. A lot of music is made to be popular, of course, or throwaway sometimes, so you’re right I spoke too soon. I do that sometimes, thank you for your reply and insight.
Good to hear other opinions when they exist(assuming they aren’t asshats giving the opinions, which I hope I’m not one)
I think it was in relation to Big Me or Monkey Wrench, but there was an interview with Dave Grohl about his lyrics and at the time he was like these songs need words so I put some together there’s nothing special about them they don’t really have any great meaning I just needed to sing something.
Like a guy like Dylan his lyrics are an incredible part of the song, but there are so many musicians that don’t even write lyrics in any way…because they aren’t lyricists or even singers.
I just wanted to offer my opinion because it seemed so wrong from my point of view I don’t want some kid or just a newbie beating themselves up because they don’t think they can write lyrics. They aren’t failures because of it. Words do mean things if you intend them to, but they are also just sound and if you know anything about Bjork everything is music lol
The main ethos of South Park is “if you care about something you’re a loser”. Which is fine if you are a show that airs when things are, generally speaking, going well. The moment serious issues entered the picture, whether climate change or 9/11 and GWOT, they fell flat on their face.
It’s pretty dated. It had its moment, but it’s legacy entertainment at this point.
Incorrect. I think south park is funnier now than I did as a teenager. Even the old episodes.
I would generally agree that their best episodes are well behind them, but they still produce some amazing moments. I recently rewatched the Pandemic Special, and it’s hands-down the best mainstream media I’ve seen in terms of encapsulating what living through the pandemic as a general member of the public actually felt like.
Watching this most recent season I got the impression that they were trying (and not just dialing it in), but were fighting the same problem that all satirists are right now: that reality has surpassed satire in its absurdity (although their plotlines about POTUS being equivalent to Saddam Hussein and Jesus himself falling into the manosphere certainly implied this predicament). If nothing else, it’s good to see a show that for a long time would have aligned itself with “free speech absolutists” fighting against them instead, not because they’ve abandoned free speech, but rather because of all the other baggage that side now carries.
These guys are already so super rich, I just don’t see the point of beating your beloved creation into the ground ruining it’s legacy but it’s not my business I guess.
Thei did have an entire season saying “#cancelsouthpark” every episode. They say in interviews that they don’t take it seriously but people keep paying so they will keep making whatever they want
I guess it’s something to do
Because they enjoy doing it. Look at the number of musical performers who keep going long after their cultural moment has passed. Hell I know people who keep playing and writing and painting even though no has ever paid attention.
I suppose, they just have been doing it so long that it didn’t seem like an art anymore, but it still is commercial as it may be. I would just be supremely bored but they are obviously not so good for them. I make music mostly for myself as well nowadays.
Bob Dylan won the Nobel Prize for literature. There are a lot of albums of his I’d consider unlistenable. I don’t think he cares what I think. He doesn’t care what the Nobel committee thinks either since he didn’t show up.
His lyrics have always been on point though, sure I think that’s generally true of most musicians, at least successful ones, to listen to your muse and not care. Or any artist for that matter. I suppose in my mind I am separating what I feel is a overrated cartoon from other art we’re talking about. That’s just my opinion. Bob Dylan also cared about things, the whole I’m so cool I don’t care about anything crap is so old, and lazy.
I disagree that it’s on point for most musicians. Vehemently
Humm, I suppose I can’t speak for them, I put myself through a hell when my loving creations went basically unnoticed, but that is because they were from my heart and not something I was trying to make popular or a copy of something else I guess. A lot of music is made to be popular, of course, or throwaway sometimes, so you’re right I spoke too soon. I do that sometimes, thank you for your reply and insight.
Good to hear other opinions when they exist(assuming they aren’t asshats giving the opinions, which I hope I’m not one)
I think it was in relation to Big Me or Monkey Wrench, but there was an interview with Dave Grohl about his lyrics and at the time he was like these songs need words so I put some together there’s nothing special about them they don’t really have any great meaning I just needed to sing something.
Like a guy like Dylan his lyrics are an incredible part of the song, but there are so many musicians that don’t even write lyrics in any way…because they aren’t lyricists or even singers.
I just wanted to offer my opinion because it seemed so wrong from my point of view I don’t want some kid or just a newbie beating themselves up because they don’t think they can write lyrics. They aren’t failures because of it. Words do mean things if you intend them to, but they are also just sound and if you know anything about Bjork everything is music lol
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Sure, but it’s too little too late.
The main ethos of South Park is “if you care about something you’re a loser”. Which is fine if you are a show that airs when things are, generally speaking, going well. The moment serious issues entered the picture, whether climate change or 9/11 and GWOT, they fell flat on their face.
And it took them twenty years to get up.
And that is why they are legacy losers.
They at least have owned up to some past mistakes due to this attitude (such as the Al Gore manbearpig apology episode)
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You are a thoroughly unpleasant person to interact with. I’m not going to make this mistake again.
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