Tankies will be closing in in 5, 4, 3…
Nah, atrocity denialists get banned on this comm.
I wonder if there are people that haven’t blocked those tankie instances
It’s kind of funny in retrospect, but when the .ML groups started getting filtered out from federation, their users started actually going to other communities and instigating arguments.
It was like they’re not happy with just having their own little shithole to poop in. They had to go and shit in other people’s shitholes as well.
The reason I say it was funny is that there was actually a discussion and an argument over whether or not we should defederate from .ml, and once we did, we found out exactly why it was right to defederate from them in the first place.
There were a lot of people who were like, “no, it’s censorship to defederate from an entire community because of a few bad actors”, and “we shouldn’t punish the many for the actions of the few”, but once the majority ruled and we defederated from them, it became incredibly apparent that we were right to do so, and that only the only people that are having accounts there are trolls, tankies, and people that like to start shit for the lolz like its 2007 on the internet again.
It’s actually quite easy to instigate an argument between tankies themselves too.
While I still used Reddit, I used to sometimes visit “communism101” sub or whatever and would answer some historical questions regarding Soviet Union, as living in post-soviet country I, of course, hear a lot from people who experienced it themselves. And I once mentioned that being unemployed was illegal in USSR. Discussion immediately turned into a shitstorm where tankies started calling each other “lazy bourgeois dogs” and “libshits”. 🗿
they are true believers, and part of their creed to to spread the good word and condemn the non-believers.
for most human beings, something isn’t worth believing in unless you actively try to recruit others to your beliefs. they are never content doing their own thing because their utopia can’t come to be until everyone believes what they do.
it’s like that with anyone who has militant belief. every militant asshole i have ever met has the same playbook of ‘the world sucks, but would perfect if people just believed what i believed and never questioned me or my beliefs’. and their entire playbook is built on hypocrisy.
but yeah, life is better when you block/remove assholes like this from you life. doesn’t matter if it’s politics, gender war crap, or religion/atheism.
Block .ml won’t block comments from their members in other instances, unfortunately.
The instance I’m on has that problem solved.
I haven’t. I don’t really see how it’s such a big deal. I often see someone offer a bad take. I just read a bit and then scroll down.
Meanwhile, in the US:
- The unions fought for and obtained substantial protections during the great depression / new deal era, many of those are still around in the 1960s
- The US recently came out of a world war that destroyed the industrial infrastructure of just about every other country in the world, leaving the US untouched, meaning that US factories can now supply the whole world, and meaning workers are in high demand
And the American “influencers” of the era were telling Americans that it was all great because of capitalism. The truth was that American workers were in an amazing position because of the left-over socialism from the 1930s, and because the US came out of WWII undamaged, unlike every other major country.
Fallout from the prosperity included a booming 1950s that spread convenience and luxury items everywhere, spawning a generation that expected them. The boom was possible largely because consumer goods had been rationed during the war or simply not produced because war contracts were more profitable. But the war created nearly 100% employement, and war production jobs paid very well. People had money to spend and no luxuries to spend it on, so there was a huge wave of saving.
Then after the war, once previously scarce consumer goods were being produced again, plus new goodies like televisions and all kinds of convenient home appliances, people spent like crazy, creating more jobs and higher salaries, which multiplied the effect.
By around 1960 the boom was finally losing steam. So the business world, which wanted it to keep going forever, started handing out consumer credit like candy. Likewise the public, who didn’t want their spending spree to end, embraced the idea of credit debt. Once those mechanisms were in place in the culture, it was simply a matter of normalizing higher and higher balances at higher and higher interest rates, and now here we are with lifelong debt being “normal”.
Also young boomers and their voting power.
It’s a good thing this doesn’t happen anymore
Only the world’s biggest combination of idiot and asshole into one single human being would ever do that to the most prosperous country on the planet, and, assuming there was an election, the people would have to be absolute bum-fuckingly astoundingly stupid to elect him in the first place.
And you know that’s definitely a second term action, so the fact that they would have elected such an absolute turd monster of a human being twice would mean that they would deserve anything that happened to them, and I feel sorry for the poor innocents in any such country that were against it the entire time but are stuck powerless at anything short of violent rebellion to do anything to stop it.
Since the great reform the Soviet union has been free from this scourge.
The parts of it that aren’t russia or belarus, anyway
Who has no country or people cannot commit crimes against them.
I was born in the 50s and started high school in the 60s, and was aware of news.
Unions were legal.
Strikes were legal.
Some people worked 6 days a week but 5 was more common; you heard “the weekend” more than “my day off”.
Soldiers and police weren’t killing strikers (source) - list of labor dispute deaths going back to 1850s lists none between 1936 and 1979The part about defending elites instead of common people - yeah probably, I can’t think how to research that. The rest I dunno, this will just get douchevoted anyway, but I mean we should strive for accuracy right? Or maybe we don’t care.
Someone didn’t read the whole post
Which oblast was that?
SF bay area. I remember there being lots of strikes when I was a kid - farm laborers, for example. There was a big deal about boycotting grapes or lettuce or something, In fact there was a strike at the company where my dad worked. Nobody got shot. There are plenty of valid points to make about government serving the rich and not the common people, without resorting to just making shit up (or automatically believing it). Bobbleheads on the side of Goodness and Justice are still bobbleheads.
It’s a comparison to 1960s soviet union and today’s America.
In the past, companies had the audacity to issue scrip, which was their own currency, because they used to own entire towns. We are regressing back to these times, with how people see fiat currencies going and stocks/crypto seen as alternatives…
They gave it away on the first line by giving us the year. IIRC, the US stopped having a 6 day work week during the industrial revolution, way before the 60’s
Yeah, and union power was still pretty high in the US in the 60s after peaking around 1950
