TL;DR: I called out a defederation evader from hexbear.

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    That sub has always been run by Hexbear and .ml alts. If you paid enough attention to usernames you’d recognize most of the ones you didn’t circle. Therapy Gary is the only one on that list that isn’t a ban happy jackass in my experience.

    … And y’all really have a hard time wrapping your heads around the idea of letting people run their little communities the way they want to. Wonder why.

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      That comm tries misguidedly to enforce left-unity, which is why it’s always ending up in drama like that.

      It’s not misguided. It’s intentionally using the paradox of tolerance to open a space for the hexbear crowd.

      We have plenty of anti-tankie comms as well

      Leftymemes, nominally, is also supposed to have that stance. It’s the first line in the description. You’d never know it by the people that post there, the content they post, or the mods they answer to.

      This is a single comm, not the instance.

      You don’t have a Nazi bar. The Nazis are just making a lot of noise, being belligerent to non-Nazis, and inviting more and more of their friends.

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            Ye It has as much impact as telling us we’re risking making it a “liberal bar”. It’s just ridiculous.

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            Mate, even you instinctively know the difference. What would you fear most, a gathering of nazis or a gathering of communists. If you had to walk through one of them to get away, which would you choose? Tankies out of state power are harmless. In fact their criticisms of capitalism and their takes on social justice tend to be on point.

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        We have an instance-wide rule about that which has been voted in by the community. It’s not draconian, we just don’t want every post in our instance comms to become a salt mine with genai haters

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          A majority of a specific in-group voted for that rule at some point in the past? Oh wow, I’m sorry, there’s no way that can be unjust.

          What’s telling is that the comments defending AI stay up, saying how they’ve never seen good arguments while banning good arguments without explanation.

          But sure, it’s no skin off my back. I’ll block your communities and your admins and mods and advise your users to migrate. Try to learn something from this when your community implodes in a couple years.

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            A majority of a specific in-group voted for that rule at some point in the past? Oh wow, I’m sorry, there’s no way that can be unjust.

            No, the whole instance voted.

            But sure, it’s no skin off my back. I’ll block your communities and your admins and mods.

            That’s the ticket!

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          But that doesn’t make much sense.

          Did the majority of the instance vote for this rule, or was it only the people who actually showed up to vote? Because if it’s the latter, then it’s not very representative, is it? Wouldn’t the fact that many comments criticising the use of GenAI, which directly inflates AI and tech companies and the worst that capitalism has to offer, being removed show that it’s not a clear majority, and you should revote?

          And even when, why would anarchists vote when you’ve shown yourself to be draconian? When you remove and ban random users for random reasons. Isn’t one of anarchists core beliefs that voting means implicit agreement with the state? With you being the state in this example.

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      I lost all respect for the place when I saw that they’re openly supporting GenAI right in the instance info and have communities dedicated to all the big models stealing the work of artists. The “anarchist” instance is pro Corporatism so long as they’re the ones benefiting from it? Yikes.

      I’m honestly kinda surprised that there isn’t more of a Republican influence over there.

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        Turns out the “anarchist” and “capitalist” are more similar than they’d like to admit–they speak of freedoms while motivated by self-interest alone, and they see fruits of other people’s labor and creativity as something that they are entitled to exploit for their own gain.

        They’d be just as happy to steal wages as they are to steal art if they were in the position to do so.

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            I’ve pointed out before the tendency of self-proclaimed anarchists to become authoritarian whenever they’re the ones in power, but they thrash me for it about how I apparently don’t understand “theory,” when the reality is they’re the ones who don’t understand the difference between “theory” and “practice.”

            Some level of organizational structure is necessary to prevent authoritarians from seizing and consolidating power. Just because current iterations in geopolitics haven’t been perfect, doesn’t mean we should throw out the idea entirely. It needs to be developed further, with lessons learned from history. Not thrown out with the bathwater.

            It’s a delicate balance though, because at one extreme you have authoritarians imposing heavy restrictions to prevent other authoritarians from gaining a foothold, and at the other extreme you have libertarian-esque permissiveness allowing authoritarians to gain a foothold.

            The problem can’t be solved without having nuanced discussions, acknowledging the full complexities of the situation and the inadequacies of overly simplistic “solutions,” which is impossible to do within campist spaces (which increasingly seem to be all of them).