I cannot stand piracy, but my computer recently escaped its containment and started downloading all these movies and TV shows that I like to watch. Does anyone know how to stop this behavior? So far I’ve tried nothing
Tell it to download things you don’t like, too! That’s the best way to stop it.
Keep doing nothing, eventually it will work itself out after it’s gotten all the items it wants. You’re good.
it’s there, its free, just take it and enjoy it
I’m gonna be the grumpy one and point out it’s “eat your cake and have it too”. That was the original version. It’s just that people are dumb and couldn’t understand that it’s supposed to be a paradox, so they started saying it backwards
The more you know. Thanks for this.
That actually makes a lot more sense
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Ironically based and piracy pilled
Piracy has never been stealing.
When you steal something, the real issue is that the other person is deprived of some tangible item they used to have.
When you “pirate”, you’re merely violating a copyright. The government granted someone a monopoly on the expression of an idea, and you’re not respecting the government’s decision on that item’s exclusivity.
And like. I’d be fine with that if the primary function in practice was to ensure the original creator gets financially compensated for their work and then they can pay for copyright controlled distribution services if that helps therm make sure they get paid but that is not why or how current law is used and I’m kinda losing that it even can be.
Right. Copyright is supposed to be for the good of the population. In order to encourage people to create things, they’re given a short monopoly on it after which it enters the public domain. The original copyright term was 14 years, I think.
The new setup is absurd. The public doesn’t benefit for more than a century, at which point the copyrighted item is probably of next to no value.
And, like you said, the artist rarely benefits. Writers are probably the ones who come the closest to benefitting. They only have to pay their agent a cut, their publisher, then, finally Amazon. With advances, etc. you have to wonder how much they get paid for each additional book sold. Musicians basically don’t make anything anymore, with the bullshit that Spotify (partially owned by the record companies) does. And then movies, TV, and other video stuff, the amount that creators get is massively watered down, and that’s after the “Hollywood accounting” makes profits from even successful things disappear.
I really don’t respect copyright anymore because it doesn’t benefit me (a member of the public) nor does it benefit the artist. It’s just a tool to hand money to certain entertainment conglomerates.
Sure but game companies need to get paid or they won’t make games. Right? Luckily there are many others who pay for games so you can pirate, but without them paying, there wouldn’t be a product you can pirate.
I just picked a game company as an example but of course you understand this.
Of course you understand that people made creative things before copyright existed. You understand that that happened when the copyright term was 14 years. You understand that it happened before Warner Bros. Discovery existed.
You understand that it is possible for a company to make games without requiring a 120 year copyright term, right?
Yes people make creative things, but they don’t make games that requires a game studio and give them away for free. I feel that you should understand this. Perhaps you don’t.
I pirated as a kid too because I didn’t have money and I loved games. But I knew that others paid for their games and that’s why they could make them.
Now as an adult, I’m paying for my games. Because I have the money and it’s worth it. If you don’t, that’s fine too. I dont judge. But just quit the stupid copyright argument. :)
Yes people make creative things, but they don’t make games that requires a game studio and give them away for free
They used to, they called it shareware. It could happen again.
Look, if my personally ignoring copyrights for certain things causes certain media companies to go bankrupt and causes a whole re-think of how the creative economy should work, I think that’s a good thing. I don’t think my choices are that powerful, but we can always hope.
I get it, I also think capitalism is a very low consciousness system where you destroy everything in the end. I often feel this place is ridiculous because of that. Some kind of school for the most retarded. However, I got put here so… Maybe I’m not so smart.
The “copyright argument” they made was that pirating isn’t stealing, it’s violating copyright, and (implied) that these are two different things. I’m pretty sure this argument hasn’t been knocked down yet, so a bit premature of you to call it stupid.
Exactly. It’s like jury nullification, but for copy rights. The government serves us not visa versa.
Tried to read an e-book from the local library. No problem downloading it, but the file was encrypted, and only an Adobe app that does not run on Linux could decrypt it. I used Wine in Linux to run the Windows version of this app, and it worked right up to the point of actually decrypting the file. Couldn’t read the e-book I’d checked out. So I pirated the book.
I went to some trouble to download and install Wine and the Adobe software, and I resent that. Tried to do things the legal way. Could’ve saved myself much bother by pirating first and skipping the public library. I also deleted the Adobe garbage.
I never bought and never will eBooks
Only physical copies and piracy (so I can actually own my stuff)
There is actually an adobe deacsm extension you can install in calibre on linux, in order to rip books in linux
Honest question, if the movie reappears in the catalog on Google does the “ownership” return to the customer? My money is on no they would have to repurchase
Only if it’s exactly the same version. They’ll say you only have a license for that specific cut, and in the version now online there is one additional second of material so the license didn’t count.
Of cause it costs extra for the version with Gandalf’s Big Naturals!
We changed a black pixel in the intro credits by 1 hex value, that will be $69.99.
If there is DRM, you’re only renting it. You may be renting it until further notice for a one-off payment, but your lease could be unilaterally revoked at any time. The supplier framing your lease as a purchase is at the very least being misleading.
The items are sold online. It is not misleading because it’s actually fraud.
We need to start regulating words like “buy” and “sell.” These words should only be usable in advertising if they refer to permanent sale that the seller cannot later revoke. Anything else should be required to be labeled “renting.”
Fun fact: in my country (Slovakia) it’s totally legal to download things. It’s the uploading it back that’s seen as illegal, so as long as you have a paid private torrent site where you can hit’n’run you are not breaking any laws.
Same in Switzerland. If it’s not software, downloading is fully legal.
Same in canada, I’ve been on Usenet rather than torrents for this exact reason and its delightful
It’s the same in Italy. If you’re just downloading, you’re golden. If you’re uploading, weeeeell, you may be liable but everybody pirates and nobody is ever fined.
Unless if you pirate football, then the police is going to knock on your door. But everything else is free for all. No VPNs needed. It’s magical.
How do you like Slovakia 🇸🇰?
Is it fun?
“They seem to have a culture that very closely matches mine, speak my native language, oh and it is so convenient because all of my family also lives here too!”
Isn’t it a bit weird question to ask a native? Unless they are upset and want to move out they most likely like their country. And unless they already lived somewhere else they can’t truly compare.
You would have a point, but they don’t actually speak my Native language as I am of Hungarian descent and that’s my mother’s tongue.
I also spent 10 years in Czechia both studied there then worked there for a few years.
So I can compare, I’d say definitely Czechia > Slovakia, it’s just that my family is in Slovakia.
lol, ok you had to be an exception :)
In that case does OP know you then?
In that case, bojler elado
Sure it is a wierd question, I have never been to Slovakia 🇸🇰 though
i hate where i’m from and can’t afford to leave
Wouldn’t that still put you in a group that would want to leave?
Piracy isn’t stealing, period.
It was totally ok to pirate movies before this practice ever took place. Information had always wanted to be free.
Yes and no. People so have to make a living. They are not doing this out of the kindness of their hearts. But at the same time fuck the corporations.
Especially Indie games, DRM-free games (GOG) and physical books.
Those are the people who deserve support
I made the same comment 5h ago https://beehaw.org/comment/6121936 Dafuq brah
I pirated it
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It’s definitely stealing. I just happen to consider it morally acceptable stealing from these fuckwits.
Stealing means taking something from someone that won’t have that thing anymore.
Piracy is just duplicating. No stealing involved.
Can you post a source where you are getting that definition? Information can be stolen. Companies are stealing our data all the time.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/steal
The main qualifier is taking something without permission.
Nothing was taken.
Steal is like taking away a cupcake from your bakery.
Piracy is like analyzing the cupcake and thus revealing its recipe and I share it to everyone. (You wouldn’t lose your baked cupcakes but everyone makes clones out of them from the recipe.)
If you want to make up your own definition for stealing, then sure.
If you want to live in reality, stealing means taking something that isn’t yours. Has nothing to do with physical items. Data can be stolen, trade secrets can be stolen, valour can be stolen, identities can be stolen.
None of these require physically removing an item from someone else. They are about taking/accessing things without permission.
Would you classify making clones/copies out of a thing and sharing them stealing?
If it’s something I am not allowed to have, then yeah. I would.
If you hack into my computer and copy all my files you have 100% stolen my data. It would be insane to think otherwise.
The entire premise is permission.
In a nutshell: the word stealing is a vague umbrella term.
No, there’s literally definitions for it. You can look it up. All of them have some element of permission to it. It all boils down to taking something when you aren’t allowed.
If they could kick in your door and take away your DVDs, they would. Fuck em, pirate away.
It should say rent instead of buy and give the expiration date corresponding to the date on which the license term ends.
“Rent. Unlimited viewing until January 1, 2027.”
Yes that is the thing it was not conveyed to people that way.
This should be legally mandated labeling.
It’s interesting how we jumped from owning physical media to “buying” permission to stream the file through the cloud.
Is there no service for people who are willing to pay for a downloadable, DRM-free copy of the file? It might be a bit niche, but it could at least make more than the $0 they make on each pirated copy.
Thank God that GOG exists
There are a few authors and musicians who do things like that, selling things DRM-free on their own site. But, the US “content” industry is a handful of mega companies who are doing everything possible to maximize copyright so they can lock up and control as much stuff as possible.
Yeah I’ve bought some music like that before. I’ve also bought vinyl records that would include a small paper with a download code on it, which is cool.
GOG if you want to buy DRM-free games. Hoping to find a movie version of the site, I want digital copies of “Them!”, “Patlabor”, and so on.
Yeah Steam has some DRM-free games too. It’s interesting how this is an option for other media, but not movies (AFAIK)
Audible pulled the same shit to me when i was in the middle of reading How to Hide an Empire. only half way through, suddenly “no longer available”, yet no credit refunded to my account. Fuck you Jeffery
That’s why I created local backups of my Audible library.
Such a wonderful tool
I saw this coming long ago, back in the 80s, when record labels started to complain that public libraries didn’t have the right to lend their recordings, claiming that their ownership didn’t give them the right to lend it to others. They got shot down in court of course, but they just waited until the political environment would be more welcoming to their sociopathic policies.
Pirate EVERYTHING!
I think people should be paid for their work. I was happy to pay for music and movies and games. But I am not going to pay for something just to have it ripped away at a moments notice just because of corporate greed.
Additionally, I fully understand why someone would pirate when the thing they want isn’t available to them to purchase, or is out of their price range.
Also, what makes you think a purchase benefits the creator? And if it doesn’t, what is the moral case for purchasing?
What makes you think creatives don’t benefit? I think it depends on what it is and who publishes the thing. Lots of Indie game developers do benefit from purchases of their games. There are entities that tend to benefit more (publishers, store fronts, etc), but that doesn’t mean that the people who made the game don’t benefit.
It’s the same with music. Labels definitely benefit more. Streaming services benefit more. But at the same time that doesn’t mean the artist who made the music doesn’t benefit.
Sure, they may not get as good a deal as I would like, but the people who make movies don’t work for free.
Considering the speed at which society and entertainment is changing and being produced, at some point it ceases to be “unlawful” to become legitimate preservation.
I’ve noticed an uptick on reruns of old series and films, especially late seventies, eighties and nineties. On films, I’m seeing even earlier production, going back to the sixties, and even of minor cinema like italian, spanish and french.
I have no illusions that these older productions are probably cheaper to license than current day productions, but recent production gets aired once, maybe twice, and is just gone.
Some will argue this is due solely to most not having rewatching value, others that it is predicated on the shorter attention span audiences have nowadays. Other arguments exist.
Regardless of those, not seeing current series being re-run, for me, is a sign that there is no interest keeping those works around.
It would be extremely satisfying if somewhere in the future some of those productions had to be rescued from private copies, as it has happened before with others.
