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Cake day: September 13th, 2023

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  • Honestly, labour’s problem isn’t that they’re copying reform on immigration, it’s that they aren’t doing anything left wing like funding the NHS, or restoring social safety nets. If all they are doing is being reform light, then reform voters will inevitably prefer “full fat” reform. What they lack entirely is a unique selling point.

    The article almost gets it when it talks about reform attracting “collectivist-minded group who are nostalgic for well-funded social democracy”, but never follows that to it’s logical conclusion. Those people perceive that there is no party that will restore that funding, so they embrace a party that they believe will protect it’s decaying cadaver.

    I once read a study that said left wing socially conservative voters were the most under represented in most western democracies, and the current situation demonstrates the danger of that. If there is no left wing option that isn’t perceived as extremely liberal, they will end up in the hands of those who style themselves as socially conservative.









  • I suspect the policy isn’t intended to actually build detention centres. It will be used to generate lots of daily mail (et al) headlines about green councils not wanting migrants. It also allows them to blame the greens if there’s a story about bad conditions or overcrowding at existing detention centres, “we’d love to build new centres but these meanie greens that claim to love immigrants keep stopping us”. It’s actually kinda genius in an evil way.

    planning law, and immigration laws which allow government to build immigration centres do not give any authority to decide where to detain people based on the voting patterns of citizens nearby.

    They could use a proxy, find something that green councils have the most of (allotments? Universities?) and claim to be using that to site them.

    Reform could try to legislate its way around the courts – a Commons majority could in theory pass a new act giving politicians the power to site detention centres by voting pattern.

    But in reality, this would face a “hell of a ride through parliament”, said King, “especially the House of Lords, where there would be few (or no) Reform peers to defend it.”

    The lords can only delay legislation, they can’t stop it.