• drewaustin@piefed.ca
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    7 months ago

    So I studied Human Rights in Uni, and one area of study is Columbus’ first contact in the Caribbean. And he was balls to wall evil. In his treatment of the First Nations he encountered. Monks travelling with him wrote about how evil this was and unsuccessfully appealed to the Vatican to condemn this behaviour.

    When people say ‘it way a different time and things were different then” I call it out as bunk.

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      7 months ago

      Wasn’t he sanctioned on his return to Spain because even his own people at the time were like ‘no dawg, that was despicable’?

  • AeronMelon@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    John Brown is the answer to the question; What would Abraham Lincoln have done if he never became President and shaved his beard?

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      Nah, John Brown would end up growing a giant beard the older and more radicalized he got. Plus, Lincoln wasn’t as radical as he’s currently made out to be by disgruntled southerners. He was kinda pushed into emancipation by the south, he originally just wanted to halt the expansion of slavery not force the end of the practice.

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    7 months ago

    Hmm. I didn’t know he had a flag, which he is apparently gripping in the image, for the “subterranean pass-way”. Seems like that flag, could a reasonable facsimile be arrived at, be a suitable counter to the Gadsden flag used by the Right. The Left could use a symbol like that.

    E: after digging around, he may not have had a flag. The one un the image may have been a prop, nobody has written about any flag he carried, and the SPW flag was a suspect later addition. IOW, there are no verifiable flags associated with John Brown.

    • PugJesus@piefed.socialOPM
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      7 months ago

      I thought you were anti-tankie? He should have just kept voting for moderate Republicans.

      In what fucking world is a revolutionary automatically a tankie? I’m sorry you don’t see the difference between totalitarian police states with a thin coat of red paint and “Any political violence”.

      I thought elections in a bourgeois democracy were always pointless. I guess Stephen Douglas would have fought slavery too, just like Lincoln.

      • Saint_La_Croix_Crosse@midwest.social
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        7 months ago

        All definitions of “AutHoRItaRiaNisM” that .world, piefed, or other right-wing lemmy instances subscribe to is anything that modern centrist liberals don’t like or involve “political violence”. Lincoln and John Brown would be “Violent Authoritarians” according to modern liberals if they existed today.

        It goes back to the definition of a liberal: A liberal is anyone that is anti-war, except for all the current wars and is in favor of liberation struggles, except for any that are still ongoing.

        • PugJesus@piefed.socialOPM
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          7 months ago

          All definitions of “AutHoRItaRiaNisM” that .world, piefed, or other right-wing lemmy instances is anything that modern centrist liberals don’t like or involve “political violence”. Lincoln and John Brown would be “Violent Authoritarians” according to modern liberals if they existed today.

          It goes back to the definition of a liberal: A liberal is anyone that is anti-war, except for all the current wars and is in favor of liberation struggles, except for any that are still ongoing.

          Lord.