No touch screens, no telemetry, no cellular modems, no wifi, no apps, no subscriptions, no infotainment.

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    The Smart ForTwo EV was just what you asked for. It did have a cellular modem. But you could just unplug it very easily.

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    8 hours ago

    And make it small on the outside and as big as possible on the inside, with the back seats level with the trunk when folded down

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    17 hours ago

    Honda-san I beg of you, revist your classic designs and drop an electric motor in to them. You will become more rich

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      7 hours ago

      Bonus points if you can make it so that all the aftermarket suspension parts that already exist for those classic designs still fit. Ultra-bonus points if the body is externally identical so aero and body mods still fit.

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          17 hours ago

          Is that where they come from? Because anyone with a wrinkly organ in their skull knows that EV is just gas with extra st3ps

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            50 minutes ago

            The amount of electricity generated by renewables an ICE car can use is always 0%. That is not true for EVs.

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            But like a lot more efficient to burn it in a power plant than millions/billions car engines that don’t capture the energy well anyways. And then at least renewables can be used in the power grid as well.

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              Ok. How well does that work with aging electrical infrastructure in places like Boston or Milan?

              I mean, like, I totally get you vibing.

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                49 minutes ago

                Unfortunately infrastructure was built when the world was new. What we all got is what we get, now and forever.

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                7 hours ago

                You improve the infrastructure? And while we’re at it, build more infrastructure for walking, cycling and public transport instead of inducing further demand for cars

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      19 hours ago

      Heated seats are a must if you drive anywhere that gets cold. Saves you a lot of miles. Backup cams are mandated on cars in the US now, and if you’re gonna have a screen, you should probably include some navigation so the car can pre-condition the battery before you get to a charger.

      Well, if you’re gonna do those (pretty necessary IMHO) QoL concessions, you might as well give the user the option to integrate it with their phone, so they don’t have to wonder if the car got enough charge, or if some asshole yanked out the plug. If you’re reporting that info to the phone, you can include some controls to start/stop charging or set certian charging targets for certain charging stations. If you’re including controls, you might as well piggyback some basic lock, unlock, pop trunk features to the phone, and if you’re already letting the phone unlock the car, you can pretty easily include proximity unlocking. Since you’ve got a data connection to the phone, you can stream music and data from the car to the phone and vis-versa. You could put in another screen and physical controls for managing the music, but you already have one in the car for the rear cameras anyway, so why not just integrate the whole damn thing and now we’re at most modern features of EVs, minus the goofy handles and driver automation.

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    One of the most appealing things about Slate motors is that they seem to lack all the telemetry bullshit.

    The least appealing thing about them is that Jeff Bezos is a primary investor.

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      I’m skeptical they’ll actually come with no telemetry or other forms of anti-features. The investors, like Bezos, will likely push for it. They have a new CEO, who comes from Amazon. There is a federal mandate for all US vehicles to come with driver monitoring technology starting in 2027.

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        Yeah, I am skeptical about it too. We will have to wait and see I guess.

        I’m also wondering how they are going to deal with the requirement for all new cars after 2018 to have a backup camera/screen. Maybe it will just go through the tiny little screen behind the steering wheel?

        Edit: I just looked it up. Seems the backup camera will go through the instrument panel screen.

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    Fully open hardware and software would be nice. I don’t plan to tinker with it. But it would give peace of mind to know that it can’t be enshittified and that discontinuation of the model will not leave me out of luck for spare parts.

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    China’s partly to blame for this, since people there absolutely go nuts for cars that are basically a smartphone on wheels. And since China’s such a huge market, companies do mainly produce things that sell well there.

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          11 minutes ago

          King Sized Homer: he deliberately gains enough weight to qualify as disabled, allowing him to work from home:

          “Hee hee hee. I pity those poor suckers on the freeway. Gas, brake, honk. Gas, brake, honk. Honk, honk, punch. Gas, gas, gas.”

          Edit: whoever wrote the quote on IMDb couldn’t spell. Fixed.