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I see “banned from community”
I look inside
Hating on americans
Oh my, what have they ever done wrong?
I will never forget that piece of shit Matthew Miller shedding a tear for the poor children of Ukraine during the Russian Invasion and then shrugging and effectively saying " its war stuff happens" when confronted with the horrific massacre of children in Gaza.
The Empire is bipartisan.
Not surprising most people who downvoted this is a .world user and piefed.world users
how do you see vote sources?
Im an admin on db0, I can see voting data
Be an admin, or a moderator of the community the post/comment is in.
Why is it not surprising?
Because fuck shitlibs
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this whole community is pure liberal rage bait isn’t it? I am not complaining but you guys really do like to trigger
We’re gonna start cracking down on the rage-bait posting a little bit.
Honestly a bit of bait is good. I have enjoyed reading the discussions that emerged in some of those threads. I see this post for what it is: bait. You could make less provocative posts but even then some people just want to read it as tankie propaganda.
Maybe we should create a community called “tankie memes” for when you do want to go all out and trigger people
Some of the bait can be nice, but in my opinion I think we lean too far into the bait and too far into “dunking.” This isn’t a condemnation based on civility politics, but a rational desire to focus on higher quality posts and comments for onlookers. Being as edgy as possible can spark constructive conversation in the comments, but constructive conversation can also happen with good agitprop that has a convincing argument within the meme itself.
Seems to mostly be jank doing it for the rage bait, pre-jank it was definitely more pro-communist but less rage bait focused. Not necessarily a bad thing, but not how I would do it either.
i’ve had the same thought before. lol
This is awesome never stop posting
The armchair propaganda and meme critic in me thinks this also conflates anti-imperial violence with imperial/settler-colonial violence and perhaps could better communicate the reality in some other way. Violence is necessary in struggles against violent oppression and resistance is not equivalent to ethnic cleansing, genocide, economic siege, or liberal coups.
lemmy need reactions for things this lit
Fuck you for trash talking Ukraine and Palestine. It’s shitty to use the mass suffering of millions for internet points.
Also, elite rage bait, I’ve got the grimble grumbles now.
LOL don’t think you got it.
Wait how is he trash talking Palestine? This meme is criticizing how military actions of the Palestinian resistance are portrayed in the media. It’s clearly a pro-palestinian meme.
It reduces the horrors of conflict down to binary of ‘my team good, your team bad’ which I get us the point but it’s unfair (imo) to equate the actions of oppressed/attacked states to the massively powerful imperial states. Maybe my interpretation is fucked up but my first glance at this meme triggered my bleeding heart.
Yeah he got u
Oh boy did they hahah, got dragged in the replies too dammit. Ahh oh well, such is the internet.
Right, but how does it trash talk Palestine though?
In the same way it does Ukraine
fuck ukraine
So you didn’t get the meme.
I thought the meme implies an inverse and was deeper than just west bashing. Mb.
What did you think it implied?
I don’t think the sufferings of either Ukrainians or Palestinians are related to this meme.
It’s about the media, and I am furious when Ukraine and Israel wrongdoings are justified
+1
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Ukraine got couped by the US in 2014, the current government is completely illegitimate, Russia would be doing them a favor by taking over and chasing us out
I’m sure the relatives of the innocent civilian victims will agree with you and thank Putin for bombing them.
I’m sure the relatives of the 14,000 people killed by Ukranian nazis before Russia entered the war would love to hear your justifications for it.
Cool story
Russia doesn’t bomb civilians unlike ukraine.
And it saved a lot of innocent civilian victims from being ethnic cleansed.
As they had been trying to do since the 2014 coup.
But again the same double standards, the west didn’t really care about what their proxy nazi’s did to them.This is lemmy.ml vro
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In my opinion, war is always full of crime. You can have crime without war, but you can’t have war without crime. If by “war crime” you mean Geneva convention, nobody follows that, either.
The winner prosecutes the loser, no exceptions.
This is the rhetoric western imperialists use to normalise their atrocities
Every time I see such memes, I remind myself that lemmy.ml is blocked in:
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China (including Hong Kong)
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Iran
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North Korea
It is currently unblocked in:
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The United States
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Israel (and Palestine)
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Ukraine
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EU
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Pretty much the rest of the world
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Russia
Though I worry about Russia, as they’ve already blocked Bluesky and at least one part of the fediverse: https://lemmy.world/post/14156170
(And FYI I checked these regions myself, with a VPN, and then when another external tool, just now).
now do the Russian channels that are blocked in the west.
Like what? RT is not blocked for me; I read an article from there once in awhile. Neither is the Russian government website or anything else I can think to test.
Well it is for me in Europe, same as plenty of other channels.
I guess Big Brother decided for us that we can only get one narrative.
I browsed lemmy.ml plenty in China. Not sure what you’re on about.
Because blocking web sites is worse than bombing civilians for decades, right?
Cool story
Check yourself. Go to any IP tester or http resolver, or try your own VPN.
Don’t really see how that matters.
Because that moose account loves to deflect?
Don’t really see how that matters.
In other words, it’s… unfortunate, but necessary?
No?
Because lemmy.ml federates with the broader Lemmyverse. So if instances like .world is blocked, that same content is visible on .ml so it’s blocked too.
Defederate from us and we might have a chance.
As of this post, Lemmy.world is not blocked in China. Neither is piefed.social.
But lemmy.ml is blocked in China.
What is your point?
In response to:
Because lemmy.ml federates with the broader Lemmyverse. So if instances like .world is blocked, that same content is visible on .ml so it’s blocked too. Defederate from us and we might have a chance.
lemmy.ml was not blocked because of lemmy.world. Or other federated instances, as far as I can tell through testing a few.
.ml was blocked because the .ml domain was blocked due to it being a free domain mostly used for spam (although I’m sure some groups/sites have petitioned and had their non spam sites unblocked). Also things being blocked by the firewall doesn’t really mean much on a personal level when we all have a VPN. You clearly don’t understand the purpose of the firewall.
My question is why bring it up in the first place?
Liberals love this little factoid because it makes China seem “authoritarian” and therefore “bad” when in reality you can just use a VPN and do whatever you want. it’s (one of the ways) kinda how I get free stuff in the USA and I hate computers you just gotta do a tiny tiny bit of research but I’ve seen in China it’s like an open secret you could prob just get some stranger to tell you how
Yep, or they think it’s ironic that a pro-China instance is blocked in China. The problem is the Mali domain, not an ideological difference.
Interesting, TIL.
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Tell me that you dont understand anything of world politics without telling me that you dont understand anything of world politics.
What about this is inaccurate?
typical firebombing enjoyer
Go back to Reddit
Same to you
Top tier meme lumping Russia with Palestine
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Where do you see jankforlife’s pronouns?
in the misogyny hole
I know, just want them to have to admit that publicly, if possible. I find having people explain their views leads them to reconsidering them in cases like this more frequently than just nakedly calling them a misogynist would.
fair, though piefeds can’t see me anyway afaik
i’m a spooky ghost etc.
I think .Zip’s can!
Fangirl is gender neutral. But if you prefer fanperson I’m fine with it. Stop distracting from the topic that this person spams this feed with pro war propaganda
No? Girl is a clearly gendered term. I also don’t see how this is a “pro-war” meme.
No, it’s a stylistic piece in wording. But I get your confusion.
Watch the recent history of OPs posts. It’s Pro Russian Spam.
imho Accounts shouldn’t be allowed to post more than twice a day in the same community
No, it’s a stylistic piece in wording.
Bullshit hall of fame entry right here
Lol, there is literally nothing pro-Russian about this. It has a Russian flag with the implication that liberals see anything Russia does as a war crime even if the same kind of (or worse) atrocities committed by the US are deemed “unfortunate but necessary.” In other words, you don’t even have to accept that Russia isn’t committing war crimes to recognize the truth of the double standard the meme is pointing out. You are a prime example of the kind of dingus this meme is making fun of.
You, a liberal glimpsing a hint of reality for once in their western-propaganda-saturated life: “Russian Propaganda! [misgendering and/or homophobia]! Putin disinformatzia! [Racism!]” You haven’t gotten to the racism part yet, but the thread is young. Here, I’ll help you along by explaining some facts for you: Russia entered an ongoing civil war and put a stop to the ethnic cleansing that the Nazi Ukrainian government was perpetrating against Ukraine’s eastern population who desperately wanted help from Russia. Fortunately, Russia entering the conflict prevented many more war crimes from being committed by the fascist Kiev regime.
Edit to add because this is just funny:
Accounts shouldn’t be allowed to post more than twice a day in the same community
What a great way to stymie a community and cut down on the thing we all hate: content. Your inability to understand how the world works seems to extend even to the fundamentals of internet forums.
You really believe that Ukraine is a Nazi regime, and you accuse others for falling for propaganda? Yikes
the american congress tried banned weapons sales to ukraine because of its nazis proclivities in 2015; how are you slower than congress on this?
Yes, and I believe it because I have been following what has been happening in Ukraine since well before February of 2022. The fact that you are unaware of this fact (even one recognized by western media before the SMO) is what is yikes. Thanks to u/freagle for providing some of the mountains of evidence demonstrating beyond all doubt that the Kiev regime is literally a Nazi regime, the most openly Nazi state regime in the world, in fact.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/11/ultranationalism-in-ukraine-a-photo-essay
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2015-06-12/ukraine-s-neo-nazis-won-t-get-u-s-money
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/10/azov-far-right-fighters-ukraine-neo-nazis
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/05/world/europe/nazi-symbols-ukraine.html
https://truthout.org/articles/nyt-discovers-ukraines-neo-nazis-at-war/
https://www.reuters.com/article/opinion/commentary-ukraines-neo-nazi-problem-idUSKBN1GV2TC/
Girl is one of the most gendered terms, and calling someone who’s gender is unclear or otherwise not explicitly feminine a “fangirl” draws on misogynistic perceptions.
Either way, I don’t think it’s unknown that OP is pro-Russian, but I don’t see how that translates to being pro-war.
Maybe it’s a language thing, I don’t wanna discuss this because this is not what my comment was about.
By repeating Russian propaganda and lies that was used to justify attacking Ukraine, bombing hospitals and killing civilians.
What lies are being repeated? It’s definitely pro-Russian, but what is the lie?
Is the “Russian propaganda” in the room with you now?
You’re both right - it is a gendered noun, it is a genderless verb. The line has become blurred between the two distinctions, and ‘fangirl’ is often used as a genderless noun as well. “I am a [thing] fangirl” is a common phrasing online irrespective of gender.
And the term itself relies on misogyny. Just because a word can be used in a certain fashion does not mean it should be.
imho Accounts shouldn’t be allowed to post more than twice a day in the same community
It’s a meme community. People will post more frequently here.
So you think 5 political propaganda posts in 10minutes by the same Person are good for the climate inside the community? Brave…
