• chirospasm@lemmy.ml
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    It also reduced ‘mysterious’ deaths of husbands, such as poisoning, suffocation, etc.

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      Misogynists do not fear violence from women, girl children, or anyone born female. Misogynists do not believe people born female have internality and do not believe they are capable of any kind of violence.

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      That’s what they want you to think.

      Grindr was✋⬆️ waaay back.

      In other words, since anyone can rewrite history, these turdfolks were choking on 🦆 I mean 🍆

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          I think they are insunating that those deaths were not because of women, but because they literally choked and suffocated on dicks.

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            But so many of those mysterious death cases resurfaced with forensic evidence showing that the wives did indeed murder the husbands. So you can go ahead and talk about men in the 1950s having gay love affairs but again that’s a whole different topic than women who murdered their husbands.

            And if you still want to press the matter, please cite some articles reporting closeted gay married men in the 1950s who literally died by choking on penises.

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    You know what also dropped massively (i’m talking 70% drop) with the introduction of no fault divorce?

    mariticide

    Somehow they forgot that

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      If it’s “until death do us part” and you really want to part, you have three options, and waiting is often the least appealing of the three.

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      Yeah, I was gonna say, think about all the men who are still alive because they’re wives had options.

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    “I’d rather take autonomy away from others than improve myself in any way.” -A misogynist mantra

    I simply cannot understand why anyone would want to stay in a relationship with someone who didn’t want to be with them. That sounds like agony for both parties.

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      Misogynists typically don’t believe that people born female have any kind of internality. If a woman (or sometimes someone they think might be a woman) just goes through the motions, it doesn’t make any difference, because that person’s internal life is totally unacknowledged by the misogynist.

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    If you got rid of no fault divorce at this point, the amount of marriages would probably drop, simply because a lot of people who be hesitant to sign such a binding legal document.

    Like, there would be tons of effectively married couples that just wouldn’t officially sign the paper work on the off chance it didn’t work out.

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    Good fuck marriage. Why can’t you be with someone without your governments approval?

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      That’s the course I adopted. Been with someone for 20 years without government sanction.

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    That’s their goal. They are controlling, they feel entitled, they twist things into their opposites, they disrespect everyone else and consider themselves superior, they conflate cruelty with leadership, they are manipulative, any good they ever seem to do is purely for marketing, they feel justified, they deny and minimize the harm they directly inflict upon others, they are possessive and greedy.

    They are abusers.

    And if there are any of them that “aren’t” abusers, they are doing nothing to stop the abuse. They are accomplices. Aiding and abetting. None of them are free of guilt, because they KEPT SUPPORTING EVIL EVEN WHEN IT BECAME OBVIOUS. At best they are ignorant, but that gives most of them too much credit. If someone calls themselves conservative today, after EVERYTHING CONSERVATIVES HAVE DONE, they’re just a bad person and can’t be trusted in any way except in their capacity to ruin you and everyone you love, possibly even themselves.

    I’m so fucking tired of pretending these parasites are human beings.

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      It sounds like you really mad at someone. Who are they? Who are the parasites you’re talking about? Honest question.

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        I’m not them but I’m looking around at … the majority of the Supreme Court, Trump, his cabinet and and his sycophants, ICE, most of Congress, and everyone who eagerly handed them power. Including heads of evil corporations and other billionaires, religious grifters, and also the people who are venal on a smaller scale.

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        My women beating bio father. He Beat his first girfriend and mother to his first child, denied her being his (a spitting image she is) for 13 years. Beat her constantly. Married my mom, beat her, my mom got out, but he had already picked up a women ten years his younger before I was even born. My two younger sibling mom, she lost four teeth because he hit her in the face with a handgun, this was of course after kidnapping her (she was 18 at the time btw) and taking her across country.

        My bio father’s father… had three wives and 9 kids among them. Beat all of them and drank, died young.

        My Step father raised me, my mom dipped. He told me once when I was 13, that you can breed Roosters with their daughter hens, but never a Hen with her son. This was an allusion to him fucking my younger sister believing she was his wife, like legit in a biblical sense, thought she could be his wife. He beat all of us, for no reason, all the time. Belt, switch, hand. I saw him jack my little brother (12) up by the throat, feet dangling, beacuse he defended my sister. My sister told me when she was sleeping he often would go to her and just start choking her out and shed wake not being able to breathe. When he found out I was self harming at 14, he got mad and told me to make sure I did it the right way next time. From ages 14-16 he physically locked me in my room for weeks at a time, not even allowed out to use the bathroom, so I wouldnt catch on he was fucking his daughter. I found out anyway and had him in jail within 24 hours of my knowing. I was 16, sister 15, brother 14. This abuse went on for 6 fucking years. Everytime I saught out help, “Idk why you do this to your father he treats you all so well”.

        My step-father’s father, was a trucker, and had a whole ass other family. 9 kids with his east coast wife, 9 kids with his midwest wife, and one kid with his wifes sister. Drank heavily, and died an early death.

        My sons father, was very charismatic and kind, I was only 23 and I happened to liked the positive attention he was giving me and how he seemed to help people, like pulling over to help someone stuck on the side of the road type stuff, and he knew I already lacked any real support system. Three months in, and I was trapped with him, being raped multiple times a day, isolated and manipulated to a full extent. I was bit by a pit bull because of him, I could have lost my arm and was lucky I didnt. I played dead and he let go. Three years it took me to get way from him. We werent even married. He stuck a baby in me forcably, thinking it would really lock me in, jokes on him that was a large reason I was able to get away, …and the neighbors we had at the time. I dont even remember their names, but they saw the abuse and helped me get out.

        My mother’s father, born in 1938, raped all three of his daughters. My geandmother, terrified of what people would think, hid it, ignored it, and hated him, hated her daughters too. They bickered and faught every day of thier marriage until he died of prostate cancer in 2021. My grandmother became a new person overnight. She was afraid to divorce him due to the social stigma of the time. So instead, she lived most of her life in misery.

        My step father, bio father, and my son’s father were all raped as boys by some male in the family.

        My now partner’s mother and father divorced, and his mothers first boyfirend after would beat her relentlessly. He got to witness this for a number of years as a child and he now suffers major anxieties in daily life.

        You want more? I can go outside my family for examples.

        This is the behavior is what this rehtoric is promoting. To keep life this way, for women to sit down and shut up, and take whatever the man dishes out. For women to live in fear and submit to monsters.

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    Of course that’s their goal, it’s insane that there are still people giving the benefit of the doubt with this kind of shit

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    I can’t imagine wanting the law to force someone to stay married to me when they don’t want to be.

    Cooling off separation periods can be fine, but as far as I’m concerned the hassle of divorce is enough of a motivation to ensure you really want it. Even the least dramatic reason I’ve seen for a divorce is still a situation I support easy access to divorce in (a friend’s husband on a whim decided he wanted to move to India to teach and couldn’t be dissuaded, she said fuck no, their marriage had originally been for health insurance).

    But then we get to the reality that many no fault divorces are “I can’t (safely/comfortably/practically) prove fault” divorces.

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    I would also not be surprised if it does not also correlate with reduced suicide and substance abuse in men as well. Although woman are disproportionally affected, men do also get trapped in unsustainable relationships.

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    I wonder how many “but men suffered, too!” comments we’ll get on this one.

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    Who was the guy that basically “gave birth” to the no fault divorce? Oh yeah… Ronald Reagan the bastion of conservative values that Republicans all spank their monkeys to.