• laz@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    25·
    7 hours ago

    Dude my nephew was telling me this an AI company galytix is literally running on Indian grads and claiming to be ai what a scam

  • ozoned@piefed.socialEnglish
    64·
    12 hours ago

    Literally was in a presentation at work the other day where they said someone used 2 million tokens and the next person used 1 million and they were so excited by it.

    I didn’t get it. I asked went 2 million was better than 1 million. The VP basically said it’s not, just costs us more money.

    So why the hell is the presentation acting like it’s a fucking victory?

    • shuffle3765@sh.itjust.works
      92·
      3 hours ago

      Because it’s a proxy metric for adoption. Currently you generally want your engineers to be using it as much as you can afford to so that they all learn and improve and adapt existing processes etc

      • deeves@lemmy.world
        9·
        3 hours ago

        Also, I’ve been noticing more and more APIs are adopting a policy where they get rid of any unused credits that you’ve paid for at the end of the month, creating a ‘use it or lose it’ FOMO mentality.

        All very normal and sane.

    • rainwall@piefed.socialEnglish
      39·
      10 hours ago

      Because they believe that AI will replace payroll, which is generally a businesses highest expense. The more AI usage, the more likely they can eliminate jobs and give themselves bonuses.

      They are excited the way a farmer is excited when his pigs are gorging themselves on grain and getting really, really fat. The farmer is glad to pay for grain because its much cheaper than the money he makes from selling them for meat.

      They are giddy because its almost time for payday.

      • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip
        8·
        4 hours ago

        payroll, which is generally a businesses highest expense

        This is something that changed in the industry; it was a investment back then.

        • boonhet@sopuli.xyz
          23·
          3 hours ago

          Huh, it’s been an operating expense since, let me check, the dawn of business?

          “Investing in” your employees doesn’t make a ton of sense when they could just hop over to the next company after a year, much like loyalty in a company doesn’t make sense. It’s all a business transaction in the end so if you can get a better deal, you should.

          The unfulfilled promise of AI is to reduce the expense to a minimum so the few remaining people can accomplish the same work. That’s more of an investment than paying people to work for you until they find a better job ever was. In theory.

          • 0tan0d@lemmy.world
            4·
            1 hour ago

            Hi I suggest you crack open a history book and look at why ford didn’t pay his employees in peanuts.

          • Jiral@lemmy.org
            3·
            2 hours ago

            I know, US style capitalism doesn’t put much value in it but loyal emlpoyees can be a win for a company, but you only get them if the companies is rewarding that loyalty. The cost of having disposable employees is often extremely high. In the worst case not only a lot of informal knowledge and skill is lost but sooner or later it will end up with the competition, no matter the clauses in the contract.

      • Pyr@lemmy.ca
        19·
        8 hours ago

        I wonder at what point government will tax AI use by companies similarly to payroll taxes and incomes taxes.

        If they pay an AI company $150,000 a month to replace $50,000 in salaries, the government then loses all that income tax from the previous employees as well as the payroll tax on $600k a year.

        • boonhet@sopuli.xyz
          2·
          2 hours ago

          Uh they’ll just claim the AI is being used in another country then?

          There’s really no way to definitively decide the tax jurisdiction of an AI agent.

          Good luck figuring this one out without a tax on unrealized gains in companies and good luck figuring that one out for companies if they can just scheme around it by reinvesting all their profit indefinitely.

          A complete ban on AI might be in order.

      • 1984@lemmy.today
        21·
        9 hours ago

        At some point capitalism will fail but it will take much longer than we think…

  • shuffle3765@sh.itjust.works
    99·
    3 hours ago

    Firstly why would you pay API prices when you can use the subscription plans for 20x less

    Secondly that much API spend would require dozens of senior engineers using it full time, like you’d be doing the work of an entire, quite large engineering team not a single junior

    • SleeplessCityLights@programming.dev
      10·
      1 hour ago

      They are changing the pricing plans to move away from the subscription model to a metered model. Beause operating at a loss is not a long term goal. People have no idea what July is going to be like, when MS changes Copilot to metered in June it’s going to be bad. I checked the usage for my companies plan yesterday and we are going to be paying more. At least 2x. Good luck to the companies that are burning tokens as part of their business plan. Either they get massive bills and go broke, or lose access to Ai after 5 days.

    • RamenJunkie@midwest.socialEnglish
      9·
      2 hours ago

      Aren’t some of the LLMs moving away from the unlimited token subscriptions since they are losing a ton of money?

      I don’t really follow that, I would neverpay for an LLM.

    • Jiral@lemmy.org
      4·
      2 hours ago

      Currently, yes. However, if you build your business on highly subsidised temporary prices, you are probably like the CEOs that can’t think further than their shareholders. If you believe there will be flat rates in the end I have a bridge to sell to you.

  • zewm@lemmy.world
    712·
    18 hours ago

    Is the face AI morphed or something? It looks uncanny valley weird.

  • Lovable Sidekick@lemmy.worldEnglish
    71·
    17 hours ago

    Exactly. Managers live in a golden age right now where social media automatically blames their fuckups on AI.

  • Grimy@lemmy.world
    48·
    16 hours ago

    Even with the most expensive subscription, that’s about 750 devs being serviced by that amount of API money. I think 1 Rohan isn’t going to get you much.

    • rainwall@piefed.socialEnglish
      20·
      16 hours ago

      Subscriptions are moving to usage based. Ain’t gonna be $200/month/Dev soon. Gonna be $3-4k/month/Dev.

      • SleeplessCityLights@programming.dev
        2·
        1 hour ago

        Not many people are paying attention to this. I manage my companies Ai policy and plan. Yesterday I checked the Copilot pricing preview and it did not look good. We do not use it heavily and it is going to cost us 2x. People should be prepared to go back to trad coding.

      • SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org
        6·
        9 hours ago

        And once the AI actually have to earn money instead of burning billions each year, it’s gonna become a lot more expensive still and then more and more each year. Line must go up after all.