I dated a vegan for several years. Am a meat eater. There were no issues. The stuff she cooked was delicious, and the stuff I cooked she ate around if she had to. We respected our differences and it made us stronger
I’m vegetarian. My partner is not. We mostly buy and eat vegetarian, but occasionally they’d like some real chicken or beef. I’ll even cook it for them, no problem. I just don’t eat it. It’s really easy to be in this type of relationship actually.
Of course, as vegetarians are carnists. Two carnists in a relationship is standard.
‘I still think animals are products so don’t mind when others also do’
You don’t realize it, but this is actually a non sequitur. You’re right, I am a carnist! I don’t see a moral issue with a human (animal) eating an animal or animal based product. In fact, lots of animals eat animals!
You’re wrong, however, to say that I view animals as products. I do take issue with the industries relating to animal consumption. I take issue with the damage they do to the planet, I take issue with the way they treat the animals, and I take issue with the hygiene and working conditions for those involved. Ideally, I’d live in a world where it was possible to morally eat whatever you fancy. Unfortunately, I live in a world where you have to eat what you can afford.
Depends on the situation, if you’re a hunter gatherer and it’s your only source of sustinance sure, if you can get whatever you want from the supermarket choosing to still eat animals that’s needlessly cruel
Get whatever you want from the supermarket
God I wish I had that kind of money
legumes and plant stuff is generally cheaper than animal stuff, so it’s a good way to save too potentially
Literally the only animal products I consume are ones that are cheaper to buy than alternatives: dairy cheese and eggs.
I spend extra on alternative milks. Alternative eggs are more expensive or significantly more effort (yes tofu scramble is doable. No I don’t have the time). I could live without cheese, or on alternative cheeses. But, cheese actually makes up a pretty large sum of calorie intake because it is cheap and can be made to be relatively healthy in most dishes.
It all boils down to money. I already spend extra money on alternative meats, and milks and raw fruits and vegetables. I still have to have money for my other responsibilities, so I make some dietary sacrifices. But I’m sure that poverty isn’t a good enough reason to sacrifice my purity to most vegans.
No you were right in the first paragraph. I was right, it wasn’t a non sequitur.
Thats bullshit and you know it, go be a pissed off teenager somewhere else.
Bullshit how?
Vegetarians aren’t carnists. Being reductionist is an immature thing. We do that for children so they can grasp things before they are ready for the full details.
I’m sorry, what? Do vegetarians not see themselves as having dominion over animals to do with what they please?
Carnism is a concept used in discussions of humanity’s relation to other animals, defined as a prevailing ideology in which people support the use and consumption of animal products
No, they dont. Go learn more about how actual people live in the real world.
I swear to god lemmy has the highest ratio of angsty purity testers I’ve ever seen.
I’ve never been any place online where people hate other people that match with them like 99% of the way so god damn much.
For real, I think it’s due to the nature of this being an Indi alternative platform. It is filled with extremists and people who get kicked out of other places.
Remember, the first real big explosion in users came from when reddit restricted its API. So, by definition, a bunch of angsty users resistant to change and intolerant of opposing viewpoints.
During that original exodus, people remarked how friendly and tolerant and how people were willing to have constructive debate here. In reality, they were all united under their intolerance and hate for reddit.
Reddit should be hated and not tolerated tho??
Thanks for proving my point.
Dairy cows and hens are still destined for the meat grinder, regardless of the vegetarian’s choices.
So you’re absolutely right. Sad to see the downvotes
You would put animals on her plate and have her eat around it ?
By “eat around it” I mostly meant she let me cook what I wanted when it was my turn, and if I had time I’d make a second serving with meat substituted for something else (mushroom, artichoke, etc.). If I didn’t have time, I’d keep the base and the layering separate and offer her the base to flavour however she wanted.
When we visited my parents, she’d just pick out the meat chunks and actually eat around it no problem
I gotta say, she may have just been nice about it.
Had that relationship gone on a long time, this probably would have been an issue. She cooked delicious things for you, where you could relax and enjoy, but then she has to do additional work to be able to eat when you cook. Seems like you got the better end of that deal, and weren’t accounting for her needs.
While we both eat meat, my partner doesn’t prefer it, so we’ve switched to mostly vegetation, including my cooking. Sometimes i make meat dishes, but it’s mostly reserved for when we go out. I’ve learned to adapt because the last thing she needs is more work to do when it’s not her turn. This is how almost every veg-meat relationship that has lasted that I know of went.
Not saying this to be pointed, perhaps your situation really was unique, but I’d take some time for self reflection on what her perspective might have actually been.
Why are there so many people in this thread telling this guy what his vegan gf actually thought
Stop projecting. You don’t always need to be right. It’s ok for other people to have different experiences from you.
Because so many people live through it bothering them, and are nice about it, just like in the comment. Spreading awareness of that is why.
Yikes poor girl.
NGL, if I was vegan and went to visit my inlaws and they made me pick out the meat chunks, that’s pretty shit hospitality.
it’s also important to be a good guest. a host isn’t a servant. they didn’t make anyone do anything; they offered food and shared their home, and that’s pretty cool.
also, doesn’t sound like in-laws. “dated” implies casuality, and also past tense.
No, fuck that. A host isn’t a servant, fine. But if they knew the person and still made only food, they had to pick shit out, they are just bad hosts.
I’m wondering if they even told them they were vegan. Its not hard to cook meat separately and let people mix it back into the veggies and whatever else.
Her parents cook twice when we visited them, but the extra work was shared between both her parents so it was fine.
My mother’s the only one that cooks. Her cuisine is very traditional. My ex understood this
Perhaps when a new person joins their life they could consider learning new things to go with the old. Thats just a hope at least.
